Coffee, Code and Conversations
Intricacies of maintaining creativity during challenging times, tackling the emotional rollercoaster that can hinder our artistic flow. I share my recent struggle with motivation and how, despite having the time, I found myself unable to engage in creative activities. We explore the tension between the expectation to perform, even when feeling less than inspired, and the reality of our human experiences. It's a candid conversation about the unfiltered truth of life, the importance of connecting through shared struggles, and even a breakthrough that came in the form of a listener email that reignited my passion. Together, we reflect on the value of authenticity in our creative pursuits and the surprising joys found in the mundane, like my new coffee machine that signifies more than just a caffeine fix—it's a ritual that grounds me. This week, we jumped into the heart of the podcasting experience, reflecting on both the creative hurdles and the emotional struggles that come with creating content. I shared my personal battles with maintaining a backlog of episodes, especially during a recent emotional rough patch where motivation seemed to vanish. I found myself with a weekend free of obligations but still couldn't muster the energy to dive into my projects, leading to a kind of self-imposed creative pause. But rather than chastising myself, I embraced the downtime as a vital part of the creative process. It was during this quiet period that I received my first listener email, a moment that lit up my week and reminded me of the connections we forge through this medium, even when the creative fire feels dim. We also tackled the subject of authenticity in show business, discussing the expectations to maintain a polished persona while dealing with personal struggles. I opened up about my difficulty in pretending everything is fine when I'm feeling emotionally drained. This led to a rich conversation about the value of vulnerability and how sharing our real, messy selves can deepen our relationship with our audience. I argued that while the industry often pressures creators to project positivity, there’s a unique strength in showing our authentic selves. We ultimately explored the idea that connections based on shared values can be far more impactful than those based solely on fleeting interests. In a lighter turn, I shared my latest passion—a new coffee machine that has become a cherished part of my daily routine. It's more than just a brewing device; it's a ritual that provides comfort and structure amidst life’s unpredictability. I reflected on how these small daily rituals not only ground us but also bring joy and satisfaction, especially during tumultuous times. By the end, I encouraged listeners to reach out, inviting them to share their own stories and experiences, reinforcing that this podcast journey is about building a community where we can all feel seen and heard.
Takeaways:
- This episode dives deep into the emotional struggles that can hinder creativity, reminding us that it's okay to take breaks and not force ourselves to be productive all the time.
- We explore the idea that even though the new year is often seen as a fresh start, real change can happen at any time, and we shouldn't restrict ourselves to yearly resolutions.
- The speakers discuss the importance of maintaining authenticity in podcasting, emphasizing that it's okay to share personal struggles without turning the podcast into a diary.
- Our conversation touches on how technology, like AI, is evolving to make creative processes easier, allowing us to focus on the essence of what we do rather than the mundane tasks.
- There's a humorous look at the balance between being genuine and maintaining a persona in the entertainment industry, highlighting the pressure to always appear polished and composed.
- We reflect on the connections formed through shared experiences and values, rather than just common interests, which can often lead to more meaningful relationships.
Email me at: cmonkxxx@gmail.com
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Unreal Engine
- Captivate
Transcript
I do tend to start each episode.
Speaker B:By talking about the podcast.
Speaker B:I know it's maybe a bit of a cliche from early years of podcasting, where that's all what podcasts were about.
Speaker B:We didn't know what to talk about, so we talked about this new, exciting thing called podcasting.
Speaker B:So it's a bit of a habit for me.
Speaker A:And homage, maybe I pay respect to.
Speaker B:This wonderful medium, but I have a point to share.
Speaker B:You know, I started to create this backlog of episodes that I can publish even when I don't record on a given week.
Speaker B:Smart, eh?
Speaker B:I didn't invent anything new.
Speaker B:It's commonly known practice.
Speaker B:But I've been always really bad with maintaining the backlog or creating it in the first place.
Speaker B:But I did something right last time, and I did create a bit of a backlog, which is now completely exhausted again.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Well, glad you asked.
Speaker B:I had a bit of emotional turmoil recently.
Speaker B:The result of it was I couldn't perform any creative activity.
Speaker B:I was completely, completely unmotivated.
Speaker B:I had what I was always missing, which is time.
Speaker B:For example, I had a weekend both Saturday and Sunday with nothing to do.
Speaker B:Like, there was nothing that had to be done.
Speaker B:And of course, there were things I would like to do, like podcasting or my projects in Unreal Engine, and I just couldn't do it.
Speaker B:And if you ask me, what.
Speaker B:What did I end up doing?
Speaker B:I. I did nothing, right.
Speaker A:I was just killing time.
Speaker B:I was drinking a lot of coffee.
Speaker B:I was sitting in front of the computer.
Speaker B:I wasn't even playing games.
Speaker B:I couldn't really focus on that.
Speaker B:I spent a lot of time thinking, journaling, just nothingness.
Speaker B:But I wasn't angry with myself.
Speaker B:Even now, I'm not angry.
Speaker B:I know myself enough by now that when there is emotional turmoil like mine, creativity is taking a more distant seat.
Speaker B:You know, it's not as like, I cannot be creative.
Speaker B:I cannot pretend on a show that everything is okay.
Speaker B:And I cannot talk to each other about.
Speaker B:I don't know what came to mind is blueberry pie.
Speaker B:I cannot talk to you about blueberry pies if my heart is broken, you know?
Speaker B:But I do know some people can, and they're completely genuine.
Speaker A:In fact, this is what.
Speaker B:This is what you're expected to do when you work in show business.
Speaker B:And what I do is not show business, although I do create shows.
Speaker B:Yet it's not a business.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:That's probably for best.
Speaker B:Money corrupts, man.
Speaker B:Money corrupts.
Speaker B:I'm outside right now, unless you haven't noticed I'm taking a stroll in the neighborhood because weather is too nice.
Speaker B:It's very sunny.
Speaker B:It's clear sky today.
Speaker B:And I'm thinking about show business.
Speaker B:Yeah, when you do work in show business, I know from a friend, you are supposed to have this Persona that is completely disconnected from who you are.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So I thought it's like a thought experiment or just a trick, a process you need to go through.
Speaker B:So let's say if you do go through, I don't know, divorce or someone died, you can still perform.
Speaker B:You have the same smile and you are viable to your audience the same way as if you know your child was just born.
Speaker B:It's kind of sick.
Speaker B:I feel it is.
Speaker B:I think it's some kind of old school rule.
Speaker B:From beginnings of the entertainment, your audience is tuning in.
Speaker B:Audience members, people in front of TV or.
Speaker B:People wearing headphones, whatever, they.
Speaker B:They have problems.
Speaker B:They have things going on and they want to tune into you.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker B:To tune into something familiar, stable, consistent.
Speaker B:You're not supposed to be bringing them down.
Speaker B:You know, I get that.
Speaker B:But I think it's also flawed because what brings people closer if not, you know, familiarity?
Speaker B:That, oh, you're going through your shit also.
Speaker B:I mean, for me, it only makes sense.
Speaker B:So what prevented me about my problem, like speaking about my problems last week?
Speaker B:Well, I don't want this podcast to be a diary.
Speaker B:I think I say it every single time with every episode, and I want.
Speaker A:To stop saying that too.
Speaker B:But it's so tempting, man.
Speaker B:It's so tempting just to share the truth, the true experience, the essence of life, without curating.
Speaker B:Well, it's a trade off.
Speaker B:If you.
Speaker B:If I open myself up, if I tell you everything, I think I want something in return, you know, I want something from this transaction.
Speaker B:Otherwise I'm laying all cards down at the table and no one else does.
Speaker B:And I don't even know who is playing, who is at the table with me.
Speaker B:That's the problem.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker A:But speaking of which, I had a breakthrough last week.
Speaker B:End of last week, I got my first listener email, which is a very big deal for me because I do have a small listener base on this podcast.
Speaker B:I don't promote it, I just publish.
Speaker B:I try to publish regularly.
Speaker B:I don't feature it anywhere, and I rely solely on my website, podcast aggregators, and podcast catalogs to be discovered.
Speaker B:And that's by design because I don't want to do social media stuff.
Speaker B:I don't want to use those ridiculous megaphones.
Speaker B:I want to be found by people.
Speaker A:Who seek.
Speaker B:So So I know if you look at my back catalog, there is a fairly decent number of episodes.
Speaker B:I don't remember how many I recorded, but these are.
Speaker B:You see, these are not from that one podcast I used to record before.
Speaker B:And I would give up.
Speaker B:I just kept those episodes and I.
Speaker A:Pulled them into this feed.
Speaker B:So this podcast has relatively few episodes.
Speaker B:And even with those few, I managed to attract some listeners.
Speaker B:And this is amazing.
Speaker B:I see it in my stats every week, every month rather, I get a doubling of downloads which seem organic.
Speaker B:I know those days you cannot really believe what you see because all those bots, crawlers, they all just download and do God knows what with this stuff.
Speaker B:They, they train AI, they repurpose this audio, whatever.
Speaker B:But yeah, I feel like people do tune in and they do listen and now I start to hear back from them.
Speaker B:So if you would like to write in an email, you can.
Speaker B:It's SimonKX.
Speaker B:Just like the name of this podcast, SimonKXXmail.com I will leave the email in the description and tell me who you are and what brings you over.
Speaker B:How did you discover this podcast?
Speaker B:And yeah, tell me what resonates with you.
Speaker B:You know, let's get in touch.
Speaker B:I do mean it, I do want it.
Speaker B:And I will respond and I will even feature you on this podcast if you want.
Speaker B:So the email I got was from guy from.
Speaker B:I'm not sure from where from.
Speaker B:It's almost irrelevant for me.
Speaker B:From somewhere.
Speaker A:This guy seemed to be.
Speaker B:Younger than me, which is also irrelevant.
Speaker B:But I thought it was interesting that, you know, I can go through different demographics and people can resonate on different level from different parts of the world at different stage of their life.
Speaker B:And we were talking about our experience or he was sharing about his experiencing experiences with Unreal Engine and we had a chat, email exchange.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, I'm getting distracted about.
Speaker A:About.
Speaker B:This hobby, this passion.
Speaker B:Now, mind you, this is like very subject specific.
Speaker B:I have another podcast about Unreal Engine which I run in a similar way than this podcast.
Speaker A:I just talk freely.
Speaker B:It's a stream of consciousness.
Speaker B:But I try to keep it more about Unreal Engine and creativity and it kind of makes sense.
Speaker B:That's what everyone is trying to promote.
Speaker B:This idea that you pick the topic and you stick with it.
Speaker B:I get that, but I hate it.
Speaker B:I think people are so multifaceted.
Speaker B:You don't have just one thing.
Speaker B:Wouldn't you want to connect with someone who you resonate with and maybe this person does something that you don't know about?
Speaker B:You don't Know if you like, but because there are those other things that you also like, you will just, you know, this will enjoy that new thing too.
Speaker B:This new thing that you've never heard about.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:I want people connect to other people through.
Speaker B:The link of personality or values, not through interests.
Speaker B:Because interests change, values don't.
Speaker B:That's also one of the lessons I came through.
Speaker A:Recently.
Speaker A:Values.
Speaker A:What are values?
Speaker B:What are beliefs?
Speaker B:What are preferences?
Speaker B:These are different things.
Speaker B:Did you know that?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I just want to say I have a lot of gratitude to that interaction and it made me believe that what I do is right, that I'm onto something here.
Speaker B:So I want to encourage you to get in touch again.
Speaker B:Email is in fact in the description and let's connect.
Speaker A:Let's do that.
Speaker B:All right, let's pivot to the last topic of this episode.
Speaker B:It is a new year.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:We're beyond half of the first month.
Speaker A:Incredible.
Speaker B:Incredible how fast it goes.
Speaker B:I hope you're having meaningful time so far and you're still holding on to your New Year's resolutions.
Speaker B:I realized personally that I don't make those anymore.
Speaker B:New Year for me is basically new.
Speaker A:Taxi here, you know, that's about it.
Speaker B:World looks the same way when you look at it through the window.
Speaker B:It's the same stuff.
Speaker B:The date changes.
Speaker B:It's very symbolic.
Speaker B:But let's not fool ourselves.
Speaker B:We are the same people.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can use this reset of calendar to help you as a counter to be accountable.
Speaker A:You can start new hobby, you can.
Speaker B:Go to the gym and you can track your progress with increasing number of months.
Speaker B:But let's be honest, it's the same you.
Speaker B:And you can start anytime.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:You can reinvent yourself anytime.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's how I see it.
Speaker B:Is that all?
Speaker B:Is this everything I wanted to talk about?
Speaker A:I guess.
Speaker B:I guess.
Speaker A:Maybe it is what it is.
Speaker B:Maybe that's the whole episode.
Speaker A:About to do some shopping.
Speaker B:And we'll see if anything comes to mind.
Speaker A:Okay, let's finish our walk.
Speaker A:I mean, I'll go on for a bit, but I'll pause and resume from home for you.
Speaker B:So we change the environment.
Speaker A:I want to talk about vibe coding and my coffee machine.
Speaker B:If you're into this stuff, stay tuned and I will resume from different environments so it's easier to listen and follow.
Speaker A:Okay, first I want to talk about my coffee machine.
Speaker A:Because I. I got this as.
Speaker A:As a gift to myself.
Speaker A:It's a, yes, I would say sophisticated, fully manual coffee machine.
Speaker A:It's Profitec 500 Pro PID.
Speaker A:If you want to Google it, it's, you know, one of those chrome cubes with pipes sticking out.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's a real deal, you know, and I love it.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:I bought it for myself.
Speaker A:Even though it was not within my budget.
Speaker A:It was not.
Speaker A:It was not responsible financial decision.
Speaker A:Unless maybe it was because I made a calculation how much money I spent on coffee.
Speaker A:I do only drink good coffee and I. I like coffee a lot.
Speaker A:So not getting good coffee is a major disappointment.
Speaker A:It's a major discomfort for me where I live.
Speaker A:Even though this is still pretty much central location of Berlin, I cannot really find a good coffee shop around me.
Speaker A:There is one.
Speaker A:I was just walking next to it when I was recording for you just a few moments ago.
Speaker A:That coffee shop seemed to be cute and nice and modern, but they were closed, which is something I really don't understand.
Speaker A:When else do you need coffee, if not in the morning?
Speaker A:And also, why are coffee shops closed in the evening when you know, you could, in theory, you would finish work and you would go to cafe to meet with your friends.
Speaker A:I mean, I see that people don't do that clearly because coffee shops here, they close after six, seven.
Speaker A:So you just.
Speaker A:You cannot go to cafe after work.
Speaker A:Maybe you can to Starbucks and stuff, but you're not supposed to, I guess.
Speaker A:I guess people want to rush home and maybe they're too tired.
Speaker A:But that used to be a thing.
Speaker A:You would meet with your friends for drinks or for coffee.
Speaker A:Now there's a lot less people drinking.
Speaker A:That's something I've noticed too.
Speaker A:People do drink, but.
Speaker A:Well, I know what the reason is.
Speaker A:Just the cost of it is kind of ridiculous.
Speaker A:I went for a pint, for a pint of Guinness with a friend of mine yesterday.
Speaker A:And you know, you go for a couple of drinks with one person and that's.
Speaker A:That ends up being quite a lot.
Speaker A:We're drinking Guinness in Berlin in a central location in Irish pub.
Speaker A:I paid almost €8 for a pint of Guinness.
Speaker A:And I did a quick Google check and apparently in Dublin, where Guinness is.
Speaker B:Of course from, and this is where.
Speaker A:I tasted Guinness for the first time.
Speaker A:Guinness costs up to €10 in a pub.
Speaker B:I remember very well.
Speaker A:I bought my first Guinness, a small, small glass of Guinness.
Speaker B:I paid three euro fifty.
Speaker A:Of course.
Speaker A:Of course I have.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:That was many years ago.
Speaker A:That was like 20 years ago.
Speaker A:Just crazy to think about it like this.
Speaker A:But yeah, yeah, drinking.
Speaker A:Drinking out is expensive.
Speaker A:And I was listening to a podcast from Dublin.
Speaker A:Not from Dublin, from Limerick in Ireland.
Speaker A:And the guy was saying that, yeah, people do now do pre drinking or, you know, drinking at home before they go out.
Speaker A:So they buy, you know, six pack, whatever per person they drink at home and they leave the home drunk and they go to a pub or a club and they just have one drink because it's expensive.
Speaker A:And it wasn't like that when he was a kid, when he was younger.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it's a not friendly environment to actually go out and enjoy.
Speaker A:You always need to be conscious of your money because it is a factor worth considering.
Speaker A:And it's not a matter of being a cheapskate either.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:It's, you know, relatively speaking and not relatively, just literally.
Speaker A:Alcohol is expensive.
Speaker A:And yeah, when we went yesterday to the pub, there was.
Speaker A:There was very few people and it was Sunday and it was, you know, day off work.
Speaker A:People should be there and drink.
Speaker A:There were tourists.
Speaker A:There was a lot of Irish people, I imagine, you know, being homesick or whatever.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:They're watching the game.
Speaker A:That's what you do in Irish pub and something I don't particularly like.
Speaker A:It used to be that Irish pub was free of music and screens and it used to be a place where you would go to talk.
Speaker A:Not anymore.
Speaker A:It hasn't been like that for a long time.
Speaker A:Anyway, yeah, I got myself this coffee machine and I loved it because it's.
Speaker B:It's something.
Speaker A:It's an item in my place, in my home that, yeah, it serves the purpose of making coffee, of preparing extraordinary, exceptional coffee.
Speaker A:But it's also a ritual that I really need.
Speaker A:It's mostly about the ritual.
Speaker A:I've noticed that sometimes in a day I end up drinking half, half of the coffee and that's about it.
Speaker A:And then maybe I make another cup and I drink only half of it.
Speaker A:And I know it's wasteful and I can identify when I do it and why I do it, and I don't do it all the time.
Speaker A:But my point is it's about the ritual.
Speaker A:It's as important as.
Speaker A:As making of the coffee.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I have it.
Speaker A:It takes a lot of space in my kitchen.
Speaker A:It's a big sacrifice.
Speaker A:And even though I just said I drink a lot of coffee, I don't, I don't.
Speaker A:Lately I'm more in need of that ritual.
Speaker A:So I do make more coffees now, but in general I. I have like one or two cups, which is kind of crazy on its own, wouldn't you say?
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's like I have this big Machine.
Speaker A:And I use it only once, very briefly, for, for one beverage in the morning.
Speaker A:But look, it may be just one once a day, but it's still very important.
Speaker A:And yeah, I have to say I do, I do save money with it because this machine probably paid.
Speaker A:Paid itself off.
Speaker A:I think I made a good choice.
Speaker A:Anyway, the machine was kind of breaking recently.
Speaker A:You know, it was leaking water.
Speaker A:There is a boiler inside and a rather big water container.
Speaker A:And the water was leaking.
Speaker B:And I thought to myself, sh.
Speaker A:I need to, I need to take it for maintenance.
Speaker A:I need to probably open it up and you know, it'll be complicated, expensive and hassle because it's, it's heavy.
Speaker A:It's a very heavy machine.
Speaker A:And how do I transport it to the place to fix it?
Speaker A:Now I'm, I'm not averse to fixing things on my own, but of course there is a risk that I will make more damage.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Of course.
Speaker A:You open something up, you don't know how it works.
Speaker A:You think you will remember where all the parts go, but it's not guaranteed.
Speaker A:You may not be able to put it back.
Speaker A:And guess what?
Speaker A:I opened it and it was incredible inside.
Speaker A:A lot of pipes, a lot of screws.
Speaker A:Yeah, like the pipe angle, anglers, whatever, some cables, some electronics.
Speaker A:But it was mostly mechanical, mostly like it seemed like analog device.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:It takes power and it, it's.
Speaker A:There is like electronic component to it, thermostat and stuff like that.
Speaker A:But I fixed it.
Speaker A:I. I had to just tie the screw up a little bit.
Speaker A:I thought I will need to replace gasket.
Speaker A:But that wasn't the case.
Speaker A:And you know, it made me feel so great because I.
Speaker A:Well, one thing, I solved it.
Speaker A:There's no need to take it anywhere.
Speaker A:It was just a matter of cleaning up the screw.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:There was, I don't know, a bit of a caulk maybe or there was something on it, some like white powdery substance and that's it and it's done.
Speaker A:And it gave me a lot of pride and sense of accomplishment, you know, and also because I feel like this machine is timeless, I, I think it will go on forever if like I, I can pretty much assume I can have this machine forever, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'll need to replace some gaskets, some.
Speaker A:I need to do some proper cleaning at some point.
Speaker A:But I feel like I bought this machine and it may as well be with me for my entire life.
Speaker A:Not like, you know, you buy a computer and it's slow and doesn't really work very well after a few years.
Speaker A:So that, that gives me a lot of comfort and yeah.
Speaker A:Satisfaction.
Speaker A:What can I tell you?
Speaker A:So now I'm waiting for the machine to warm up.
Speaker A:I know it's a lunchtime.
Speaker A:I should probably eat something fast and.
Speaker A:And maybe I'll just do that.
Speaker A:I will cook and then I want to talk to you about vibe coding because there's a lot going on with vibe coding lately.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:I have my coffee, I had my lunch in.
Speaker A:In the wrong order.
Speaker A:I'm ready to chill a little bit.
Speaker A:I've done some work also, just so you know, I've done a solid work today and I'll be doing more work from my employer later.
Speaker A:But it's kind of, kind of odd day.
Speaker A:I feel like it's off ramp from very emotionally difficult time.
Speaker A:I'm giving myself a slack.
Speaker A:You know, talking to you is a bit of that off ramp or on ramp maybe, as I'm trying to have this monologue that feels like a dialogue.
Speaker A:It's very strange.
Speaker A:Podcasting is really strange.
Speaker A:Not as strange as talking with AI.
Speaker B:Shall we talk about that?
Speaker A:I said we, we would talk about vibe coding.
Speaker A:And yeah, maybe this is a good point to, to put a pin in talking about AI.
Speaker A:You can talk for hours, if not weeks, about AI non stop.
Speaker A:I feel like I didn't talk about AI in a while.
Speaker A:And it's a very interesting phase right now where AI is starting to be, in my view, reliable.
Speaker A:Like there is really a point where it is becoming useful again because there was a.
Speaker A:There was a phase where everyone was just really just complaining and it's hallucinating that the images, you know, they have wrong number of fingers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You still need to be vigilant, but the utility of it is just changing so much.
Speaker A:I have to say my, my favorite use case right now is, is it is Vibe coding and using AI in the terminal in a coded terminal.
Speaker A:I'm not a coder.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:That what makes it the most interesting to me because now finally it really enabled me to access this incredible world of coding and interacting with computers that I never had access to.
Speaker A:And you know, I. I remember back in.
Speaker A: I think it was: Speaker A:Maybe I said this story already.
Speaker A:I'll say it again briefly.
Speaker A:I ask him, I see what you guys do and I look at those commands and there is just so much.
Speaker A:It's basically jargon, right?
Speaker A:Like you write lines of code, it's almost like writing sentences, but there is so Much rigor around it, you know, brackets, spaces, symbols.
Speaker A:If you get it wrong, it will, it will highlight it that, oh, there is a mistake.
Speaker A:But look, you know what I want to say, Computer, like why, why, why are you so picky?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Well, computer needs to be picky because they need like specific commands, right?
Speaker A:They need to be very accurate with what they get.
Speaker A:And I asked like, how long until I'll be able to, to write to the computer, hey, make this do that and only if this happens.
Speaker A:Well, this is kind of how code works, but.
Speaker A:Right, right, but you need to use this very bizarre, not human centric language that you need to learn in order to do anything, which is, it feels like step too much, right?
Speaker A:And I said, how long until I can just write normal text my computer and it will do it.
Speaker A:I remember saying, oh, never.
Speaker A:And it was so weird.
Speaker A:I mean, I asked him because I looked up to him.
Speaker A:He worked at Google and I had a lot of respect to him.
Speaker A:I still have.
Speaker A:And I think vibe coding caught everyone by surprise because you really can ask computer now to make an application and it does it for you.
Speaker A:And yeah, sometimes it takes a couple of exchanges of messages, sort of, you know, computer tells you, well, this is ready.
Speaker A:It is ready.
Speaker A:And then you launch it.
Speaker A:And no, it doesn't load.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, indeed.
Speaker A:I found a mistake.
Speaker A:Try now.
Speaker A:No, it doesn't.
Speaker A:How about now?
Speaker A:Yes, it works, but there's a problem with this button.
Speaker A:Okay, I will fix it for you.
Speaker A:You know, it's, it's really like for me it really works like that.
Speaker A:And I don't write applications that I put online or give it to somebody else.
Speaker A:So I don't really need to take responsibility for security.
Speaker A:You know, it's not like I'm just, I'm running those applications locally and they, they, those applications, they, they do tasks for me and it not only saves me time, but also it's like the whole experience is just very efficient and satisfying.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Instead of having multiple tabs open and on every tab I do something.
Speaker A:I usually just write a script with AI and I tell it to do those steps and then script is done and I can reuse that script for different things.
Speaker B:I'm being very vague because this is.
Speaker A:Not a tutorial, but I, I feel like if you want to do it, there is a really easy access to this and you can, nowadays you can do it with free tools.
Speaker A:Also, you don't need a subscription even for some of those things.
Speaker A:Now I'll give an example like this Podcast.
Speaker A:I know I said I'll not be using AI to produce it, but yeah, well, I had to reconsider.
Speaker A:I'll tell you what I do, how my process looks like.
Speaker A:I no longer use Captivate website, which is.
Speaker A:Captivate is my hosting provider.
Speaker A:It's where I keep my podcast and I no longer go on their website to upload audio and to fill in descriptions and titles.
Speaker A:I have my local application on my computer on my Mac and I upload audio.
Speaker A:It generates title subtitle with options.
Speaker A:It gives me description, it can generate image.
Speaker A:I didn't use that yet, but it will be able to generate image per episode.
Speaker A:It generates all those assets, you know, like assets that you can see in your podcast player.
Speaker A:I don't need to write it manually and then it uploads it and it's really two click solution and Episode is up online.
Speaker A:And mind you, this stuff was truly preventing me from podcasting regularly.
Speaker A:Like all this mundane, tedious work back in the day.
Speaker A:I would take like 40 minutes to.
Speaker B:Get the title description.
Speaker A:It, it's, it's gone.
Speaker A:This step is gone.
Speaker A:I, I can basically finish recording now.
Speaker A:This episode I, I produced with, in like with multiple segments.
Speaker A:So I need to connect it, maybe review it and then I just select the file and it's done.
Speaker A:It really is so simple.
Speaker A:Now what really bothers me to some extent that those tools are available and people are really afraid of this stuff.
Speaker A:Not afraid, like they don't trust.
Speaker A:I mean there's like limited trust which is healthy, but they don't consider it as something they could use.
Speaker A:And it really is strange for me because it's now simpler than ever before to accomplish tasks and you just need to use, you need to start using this new tool.
Speaker A:And it bothers me that people think that AI is chat gtp.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:No, there is just so many other things.
Speaker A:And if the same people start looking around, they end up using some weird website services that in the back end they still use chat GTP and like OpenAI and they, I don't know, is it lack of critical thinking?
Speaker A:Like so many times I get asked for advice and I think it's really tricky to say, well ask AI.
Speaker A:Don't ask me, ask AI.
Speaker A:I ask AI.
Speaker A:I take a screenshot and I send it to them and yeah, I have a look at it to see if it makes sense to me.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker A:But I really wonder why people don't have that instinct to, to use those tools.
Speaker A:I really wonder and I ask, I actively ask people they don't really have answer.
Speaker A:I think it's almost like a, like, like a muscle memory they need to create.
Speaker A:And now that I'm saying this, I remember vaguely when, when Google was becoming popular.
Speaker A:I know it dates me a lot.
Speaker A:Well, okay, not popular, but like first five years of, of modern search engines, you know, people would wonder how do I, how do I do this?
Speaker A:And what is this place that has that whatever structure?
Speaker A:Did you try to Google it?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Well, Google it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's very strange and maybe it's easy for me for some reason I just keep those tools in mind, but I really wonder why people don't embrace those tools like instantly.
Speaker A:Why, why Hesitation.
Speaker A:You know, I'll be going to, to, to.
Speaker A:To spend some time with my parents and I really want to.
Speaker A:I don't feel like I can recommend AI to my, to my mom, especially because I feel like she may get into some weird bias and she may completely stop thinking critically.
Speaker A:But I'm noticing that she's really making increasingly more and more dumb decisions and she's very dysregulated.
Speaker A:I was recommending to her that she goes to a therapist to talk about things, but she will not do it.
Speaker A:It's like, it's.
Speaker A:She's so resistant, you know, it's.
Speaker A:I think the next best thing is.
Speaker B:To talk to AI.
Speaker A:And I know it's.
Speaker A:I, I have the self doubt as I say it because it's.
Speaker A:Yes, but you know, I guess there are risks and downsides to everything.
Speaker A:But in the end, I would like her to like, instead of being alone and going crazy, I would like her to, to have this AI identity that she can communicate with.
Speaker A:You know, and mind you, she talks to me.
Speaker A:She talks to my sister.
Speaker A:But even this has different dynamics.
Speaker A:Even with like direct communication with her kids, she will not ask about some things.
Speaker A:Certain things she will probably comes with older age.
Speaker A:You, you just make assumptions.
Speaker A:You don't research, you're overwhelmed, you don't ask anybody.
Speaker A:But yeah, I'd really like to do a bit of a sit down with her and, and see how she interacts with AI that would be really interesting.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:I would like to end this episode.
Speaker A:I feel like it was very technical, very geeky.
Speaker A:We talked about vibe coding, podcasting.
Speaker A:I don't remember what else.
Speaker B:My coffee machine.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It's a very technical episode.
Speaker A:I guess there were some topics I had to get off my chest.
Speaker A:I hope you're still here with me.
Speaker A:If you're listening, there must be a good reason why you listen I don't think this episode was good to sleep to fall asleep to although I feel like this podcast might be one of those podcasts was boring rumbling droning voice episodes.
Speaker A:This one I don't think it was.
Speaker A:I hope you enjoyed all the locations we were recording using dji mic mini when we were outside and now I'm talking directly to my phone.
Speaker A:I don't know why because my shure microphone is here mounted to my desk and I'm not on it right now clearly but yeah bit of variety bit of changes as I'm pacing back and forth in my apartment I wanted to say thank you for listening thank you for being with me here on this ride.
Speaker A:Send me an email if you have any questions if you disagree about anything and yeah I will I will speak to you soon.
Speaker A:Take care.
Speaker A:Bye bye bye bye bye bye bye.
Speaker A:Where is the stop?
Speaker A:Here is the stop button.
Speaker A:Bye.
